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		<title>Google and Digg&#8217;s Secret Backroom Deal</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the last couple of months, I&#8217;ve been getting the urge to get back into blogging a bit. However, when it&#8217;s been awhile since you&#8217;ve attempted to construct a thought longer than a 140 character tweet, actually doing it is a bit harder than you regular bloggers might imagine. I keep finding myself sitting around [...]]]></description>
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<p>Over the last couple of months, I&#8217;ve been getting the urge to get back into blogging a bit.  However, when it&#8217;s been awhile since you&#8217;ve attempted to construct a thought longer than a 140 character tweet, actually doing it is a bit harder than you regular bloggers might imagine. I keep finding myself sitting around waiting for a topic to come along that instantly compels me to start typing.</p>
<p>Well guess what? Today is the day.  And the compelling topic turns out to be Digg&#8217;s new amazing<a rel="nofollow" href="http://digg.com/tools/diggbar"> DiggBar</a>.  In cased you missed the announcement, here is the Digg&#8217;s explanation of what the DiggBar is:<span></span></p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The DiggBar enables you to Digg, read comments, find related content, and share stuff from any page on the Web. And it&#8217;s presented in a short URL format, making it easy to share in emails, on Twitter, and via other services. In addition to finding it on all outbound links from Digg, you can generate the DiggBar using any of the following solutions.&#8221;</em></p>
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<p><strong>Here&#8217;s what it should say:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The DiggBar is an incredibly clever framejacking tool disguised as a URL shortening service. The mass adoption of the DiggBar by the thousands of users who constantly distribute un-digg-worthy content through our most <a href="http://www.twitter.com">feared competitor</a>, will allow us to generate millions of additional revenue dollars by injecting our ads in between our feared competitor and the destination url.&#8221;</em></p>
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<p>Shortly after the release of the DiggBar, in an article about <a href="http://searchengineland.com/analysis-which-url-shortening-service-should-you-use-17204">URL shortening services</a>, <strong>Danny Sullivan wrote the following regarding the DiggBar</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Like lin.cr, it does a 200 code. That means the page is actually on Digg itself &#8211; they&#8217;re making a page with the DiggBar and pulling in your content without permission into a frame. That&#8217;s not illegal, but it&#8217;s a tactic that died off years ago. It also means that if you use the Digg short URLs, none of the link credit passes to your page. It&#8217;s all kept with Digg.</em></p>
<p><em>There&#8217;s no need for you to give Digg all your link credit. If you want to shorten your URLs, use a service that does a 301 redirect.&#8221;</em></p>
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<p>In response to Danny&#8217;s criticism, <strong>John Quinn Posted the following on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://blog.digg.com/?p=636">Digg&#8217;s blog</a></strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Prior to launching the DiggBar, we reached out to Google and <a href="http://www.seozeitgeist.com/seo/">SEO</a> experts to ensure we adhered to the leading best practices, as we framed and linked directly to source content via the DiggBar. This process involved gathering feedback from publishers to ensure the execution was as content-provider-friendly as possible. We took several steps to ensure that search engines continue to count the original source, versus registering the DiggBar as new content. We include only links to the source URLs on Digg pages to allow spiders to see the unmodified links to source sites. These links are overwritten to short URLs in JavaScript for users who have this preference.&#8221;</em></p>
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<p><em> </em> <strong>He then goes on to add</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;We launched a few additional updates early this week to address some lingering concerns in the <a href="http://www.seozeitgeist.com/seo/">SEO</a> and publishing communities around the infamous (and sometimes mysterious) search engine ‘juice&#8217;. We always represent the source URL as the preferred version of the URL to search engines and use the meta noindex tag to keep DiggBar pages out of search indexes. For those of you interested in the technical details, we also include link rel=&#8221;canonical&#8221; information to indicate that the original URL is the real (canonical) version. Additional URL properties, like PageRank and related signals, are transferred as well. This is recommended by Google, Ask.com, Microsoft and Yahoo!.&#8221;</em></p>
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<p><em> </em> Sound&#8217;s great. (But not great enough for <a rel="nofollow" href="http://digg.com/http://digg.com/tools/diggbar">Digg to allow it on their site</a>?)</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the problem&#8230; Based on everything publicly published for us common folk, plus a ton of personal testing, I can tell you that the claims in Digg&#8217;s post <strong>are a flat out lie</strong>.</p>
<p>Lest&#8217;s start with the noindex part .   A page excluded from Google&#8217;s index either by robots.txt or via a noindex meta tag will develop juice, but it <strong>absolutely does not pass it</strong>. For that claim to be even remotely true, you would need to at least use &#8220;noindex, follow&#8221; (which Digg doesn&#8217;t) and from all my personal testing, that doesn&#8217;t work either.</p>
<p>Now for the canonical part. (aka RelCan)</p>
<p><strong>From Google&#8217;s official blog post regarding the introduction of RelCan</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Can this link tag be used to suggest a canonical URL on a completely different domain?</strong></p>
<p><em>&#8220;No. To migrate to a completely different domain, permanent (301) redirects are more appropriate. Google currently will take canonicalization suggestions into account across subdomains (or within a domain), but not across domains. So site owners can suggest www.example.com vs. example.com vs. help.example.com, but not example.com vs. example-widgets.com</em></p>
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<p>Based on that, the big question is whether Digg is lying or a backroom secret handshake took place between Google and Digg which lead to Google giving Digg preferential treatment by honoring a cross-domain RelCan tag. I have no way of knowing because neither company is talking, but I did notice the the RelCan Digg uses contains a source tag at the end.<br class="spacer_" /></p>
<p>Could that be the secret code that tells Google to count it, even though they have been told to ignore the page? Maybe.</p>
<p>But lets explore the idea that Digg is just lying.</p>
<p>Think about it for a moment. You invest countless hours promoting your content. You get lucky enough to make the homepage of Digg, or you hit the Retweet motherload on Twitter. A certain percentage of all those people who see your content are going to copy &amp; paste the link they land on into a blog post. (Thereby generating a link for your site).</p>
<p>Before the DiggBar, (and with legit shortening services) <strong>all those links would point to your url</strong>. Now, a large percentage of them are going to be <strong>links pointing to a page on Digg</strong>. Now if you are Yahoo, CNN, or the BBC, that isn&#8217;t really going to matter much. You don&#8217;t have to spend time thinking about building link equity, because <strong>you already have it</strong>. However, if you are a newer site struggling to build trusted link equity in the current <a href="http://seoblackhat.com/2008/09/08/black-hole-seo/">black hole</a> environment we live in, the <strong>mass adoption of the DiggBar is a serious issue</strong>.</p>
<p>I will be advising all clients to add some frame busting code to their sites so the DiggBar won&#8217;t work for the simple reason that regarless which scenario is accurate, they are both equally wrong.</p>
<p>Hopefully, others will do the same.</p>
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<p><strong>Update:</strong> 4-13-09</p>
<p>The DiggBar discussion on Twitter has been incredible. Here&#8217;s the most recent Tweets.</p>
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<li><a href="http://twitter.com/debiprasad/statuses/4570993274" title="">Framebar and the problem: Few months back, Digg introduced a product called DiggBar and there was a lot of hung.. http://bit.ly/pKih4</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/diggleft/statuses/4569561413" title="">@novenator CNN deletes the diggbar, so link to the digg page if you want people to digg it</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/buzzbishop/statuses/4556646870" title="">@jaypiddy @gillianshaw could always try the diggbar / hootsuite / facebook model by adding a floating iframe to links?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/amyvernon/statuses/4544508240" title="">@subtheories waaah. wanna read that, but getting an error on that diggbar link.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/jdenizac/statuses/4517475885" title="">@uxzappos I like the idea of your &#8220;twitter taxonomy exercise&#8221; &#8211; you need to make a better way to capture ppls responses. Diggbar style?</a></li>
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		<title>The Social Media News &amp; Bookmarking URL Shortener Breakdown</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the past, I have talked in depth about Digg&#8217;s URL shortner.  While Digg gets the majority of the criticism for their shortener, both Reddit and StumbleUpon (the two next largest sites) have also joined the party.  In lieu of these newer shorteners recently hitting the streets, I wanted to breakdown the various shorteners by [...]]]></description>
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<p>In the past, I have talked in depth about <a href="http://www.10e20.com/blog/2009/05/07/how-to-make-the-diggbar-to-work-for-you/">Digg&#8217;s URL shortner</a>.  While Digg gets the majority of the criticism for their shortener, both Reddit and StumbleUpon (the two next largest sites) have also joined the party.  In lieu of these newer shorteners recently hitting the streets, I wanted to breakdown the various shorteners by how they work and how you can use them to help your business, so I wrote a post about them over at Search Engine Land.</p>
<h3>Some Main Points:</h3>
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<li><strong>How Digg&#8217;s DiggURL Works </strong>
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<li>DiggURL Marketing Benefits</li>
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<li><strong>How StumbleUpon&#8217;s su.pr Works </strong>
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<li>How to leverage su.pr</li>
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<li><strong>How Reddit&#8217;s URL Shortener Works </strong>
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<li>How to use the Reddit shortener to help your promotions</li>
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<li><strong>How to Choose a Social Shortener that will work for you!</strong></li>
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<p>If you want a comprehensive breakdown on the big three social media shorteners, check out my post &#8220;<a href="http://searchengineland.com/how-to-use-3-social-news-and-bookmarking-url-shorteners-26203">How to Use 3 Social News and Bookmarking URL Shorteners</a>&#8221; and find out what will work for you!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[BusinessInsider.com has a chart stating that Digg received 17.4 million unique visitors in August 2009, easily eclipsing other social news sites. Its dominance in the social news sphere brings to mind another company&#8230; Top Search Engines According to a July 2009 comScore Search Report: Google (65% market share) Yahoo! (19.6%) Microsoft/Bing (8.4%) Ask (3.9%) AOL [...]]]></description>
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<p>BusinessInsider.com has a chart stating that <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-social-news-websites-2009-9">Digg received 17.4 million unique visitors in August 2009</a>, easily eclipsing other social news sites. Its dominance in the social news sphere brings to mind another company&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Top Search Engines According to a <a href="http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2009/8/comScore_Releases_July_2009_U.S._Search_Engine_Rankings">July 2009 comScore Search Report</a>:</strong></p>
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<li>Google (65% market share)</li>
<li>Yahoo! (19.6%)</li>
<li>Microsoft/Bing (8.4%)</li>
<li>Ask (3.9%)</li>
<li>AOL (3.1%)</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Top Social News Sites Based on Unique Visitors in August 2009: </strong></p>
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<li>Digg (17.4 million)</li>
<li>Yahoo! Buzz (7 million)</li>
<li>Propeller (800,000)</li>
<li>Reddit (670,000)</li>
<li>Mixx (660,000)</li>
</ol>
<p>Digg&#8217;s dominance in the social news sphere is not unlike Google&#8217;s dominance in the search sphere. Digg&#8217;s strong community and constant roll outs like Facebook Connect, the DiggBar, and constant Digg Dialogues appear to be having a positive impact on the site&#8217;s popularity.</p>
<p>Amusingly enough, Yahoo! Buzz is like the Yahoo! Search of social news. Poor Yahoo! &#8212; always the bridesmaid, never the bride. Most surprising to me is how disappointingly Reddit appears to be performing &#8212; are they the Ask of social news sites? I remember a few years ago when it was all about Digg vs. Reddit, and now this chart depicts Propeller is beating Reddit in unique visitors and Mixx nipping at their heels (though I suspect the unique visitors for Reddit are incorrect&#8211;the number seems a bit low for them, don&#8217;t you think?). In any case, Digg fans must love seeing their favorite site spanking Reddit while Reddit fanboys are probably scoffing and saying they prefer the site&#8217;s &#8220;intimate&#8221; community.</p>
<p>Love them or loathe them, but clearly Digg is doing something right since they&#8217;ve managed to outshine their competition and seem to be establishing themselves as the predominant social news site on the web today. What do you think the other social news sites need to do in order to better compete with Digg and attract more users to their sites, or do you think that, much like with Google, Digg&#8217;s only going to get stronger?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I attended and spoke at IMC Vancouver. It was a nice little conference that featured a lot of different speakers from the SMX/SES shows. While my sessions focused on SEO, there were a number of panels that discussed social media marketing. I heard a lot of feedback from attendees praising the social media [...]]]></description>
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<p>Last week I attended and spoke at <a href="http://www.internetmarketingconference.com/vancouver/">IMC Vancouver</a>. It was a nice little conference that featured a lot of different speakers from the SMX/SES shows. While my sessions focused on <a href="http://www.seozeitgeist.com/seo/">SEO</a>, there were a number of panels that discussed social media marketing. I heard a lot of feedback from attendees praising the social media information, saying it was valuable and tactical advice.</p>
<p>When I came back to work I noticed this eMarketer article that highlights a Unisfair survey <a href="http://www.emarketer.com/Article.aspx?R=1007284">asking marketers what their top plans and priorities are for 2010</a>. 60% of the marketers surveyed said they were going to focus on acquiring new customers. What I found especially interesting about the survey is that 75% said they plan to increase social media in their 2010 marketing efforts (vs. 51% who said they&#8217;d focus more on web search and <a href="http://www.seozeitgeist.com/seo/">SEO</a>).</p>
<p>I also found this chart to be really interesting. It depicts which social networks marketers find most valuable:</p>
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<p>Based on the survey and what I heard at IMC Vancouver, I think a lot&#8217;s been said about social media marketing lately. Namely:</p>
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<li><strong>Social media success is multi-faceted. </strong> I still hear a lot of people touting Digg as a huge piece of the social media pie, yet only 1% of the marketers surveyed felt that Digg was the most valuable social networking tool. Yes, Digg is extremely beneficial from a traffic-driving standpoint and can bring links into your site. However, there are tons of other important social sites that are equally as valuable as Digg, especially if you&#8217;re looking to build relationships by networking and if you want to seek out and acquire new customers. Lots of people are finding value in LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter, so it&#8217;s important to cast a wide net as well as figure out where your time is best spent. Some people will get the most value out of Digg, while others benefit from networking on LinkedIn or CafeMom. It depends on what your goals are, where your audience is, and what&#8217;s the best, most logical fit for your brand.</li>
<li><strong>People want to hear about tactics, not have their time wasted with anything else.</strong> Mona Elesseily, the Director of Marketing Strategy for <a href="http://www.pagezero.com/">Page Zero Media</a>, presented at IMC Vancouver and said that she was really impressed by the quality of social media information being given at the show. She mentioned that a lot of conferences are more basic and introductory when it comes to dispensing social media marketing advice, but at IMC people drilled down into specific tactics and shared valuable information. When a new(ish) marketing strategy like social media emerges, people want to know how they can use it to their advantage and to bring success to their business. They don&#8217;t want to waste time hearing about how &#8220;social media is the future!&#8221; and other pointless, fluffy claims and generic speak. They want useful, applicable advice on what they need to do on these sites in order to use them efficiently.</li>
<li><strong>Social media is being accepted as an important facet of marketing.</strong> More people plan to focus their efforts on social media than on SEO in 2010, and I think that&#8217;s because they see a clearer line that attaches social media to marketing than the one that attaches SEO to marketing. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I see obvious benefits of SEO, but I think that to businesses, social media marketing is an easier and more valuable concept to grasp because it&#8217;s simply marketing across a new medium. It holds the same principles of marketing and customer interaction and networking and relationship building, only it&#8217;s over the Internet and using new websites and tools.</li>
<li><strong>Email campaigns aren&#8217;t dead!</strong> I know that email marketing is considered more old school while social media marketing is the NKOTB (that&#8217;s New Kid on the Block for those of you who weren&#8217;t adolescent girls in the early 90&#8217;s), but 49% of the marketers surveyed said they plan to ramp up their email marketing efforts next year. I think that email campaigns can be very valuable if they&#8217;re done right. If you&#8217;re able to bring a social element into your email newsletters and marketing materials (Yelp does a great job of marrying traditional and social in their newsletters), I think you can have a very successful campaign.</li>
<li><strong>Social media marketing isn&#8217;t a fad.</strong> I&#8217;ve heard some SEOs and marketers grumble about how sick they are of social media marketing, thinking that it&#8217;s just the next big thing that will blow over soon and get replaced with a new up and coming fad. I think the problem is that, as with SEO, there are a lot of people in the industry who can give the craft a bad reputation because they&#8217;re messing around in a sphere they don&#8217;t know much about. However, like I said, I think that social media marketing is just an evolution of traditional marketing and will continue to be important as the Internet remains an essential part of our everyday lives. The core of marketing is all about promoting, selling and distributing a product or service, and the best way to do that has always been reaching out to your audience and resonating with them in a way that will make you memorable. Social media is exactly that &#8212; it provides you a new medium to reach out to your audience and make some sort of imprint. To say that social media marketing is a fad is to dismiss marketing itself as a fad, and we all know that marketing&#8217;s been around for hundreds of years and doesn&#8217;t show signs of slowing.</li>
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<p>I&#8217;m happy to see that there&#8217;s an increased awareness of social media marketing and its importance/benefits. It&#8217;s rewarding and promising to hear about people wanting to hear more about it at conferences and planning to dive into it more in the coming years. <img src="http://www.seozeitgeist.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/7b267_icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Digg made a change to their site today, adding the no-follow attribute to all external links until they felt sure the link was safe. They also issued a statement about the change on their blog and even went as far as to speak directly to SEOs, saying they would indeed lose some of the authority [...]]]></description>
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They also issued a statement about the change on their blog and even went as far as to speak directly to SEOs, saying they would indeed lose some of the authority they [...]<br/><br />
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